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Two-time GRAMMY-nominated composer and artist who is up for Best New Age, Ambient, or Chant Album at the February 1st ceremony in Los Angeles for the 68th annual GRAMMY Awards. Her story includes having successfully transitioned from being a pop artist and along the way she and her music have been featured in People magazine, South By Southwest, ABC Family, FORBES, Harper’s Bazaar, and more. Her first new age album hit number 1 on global Amazon, iTunes, and Bandcamp sales charts for weeks on end. She has even sung on stage with Sting and Pentatonix, and her Spotify profile has well over 43 thousand monthly listeners and her top five songs there have a combined total of more than 4.1 million streams.

Notable Guest Quotes

“This was the one song where both of us had tears in our eyes listening to the other person's edits and additions and what we did.  And we were just like, ‘Okay, there's something special here’.”

“Every Zoom call we showed up to, she's very blonde, and I'm very dark brunette.  And, she was often wearing white, and I was often wearing black … how very opposite.  We were in opposite hemispheres.  You name it, there was kind of an opposite thing going on… in a way that kind of was teaching us, hey, we can embody both, especially in a time when so many things are so divided and associations in the world are divided.”

“When I have a purpose for a project, I always feel like it gives me really powerful parameters.”

“I have a journal entry from, like, 2003 that was like, ‘I think I wanna go after a GRAMMY.  So, this is 23 years in the making.  But I was always using it as a compass.  Like, am I creating music that is of the quality of a GRAMMY-winning album?  It was never the thing I set out to do.”

“My first job out of college that was in the music industry was working as a composer … actually, the tech for Jingle House, the people that make music for commercials.  And I would stay late, and then I ended up writing music for the commercials that the other in-house composers were working on.  And I would start presenting what I did after hours, and then they started winning.  So, eventually, I was a composer for commercials.  Sometimes we did a couple of short films.  We'd had a couple of documentaries in house.”

“I really do try to give myself the gift of focus.  I also believe that one person can do all of the things.  They just don't need to all get done at this exact moment.”

“The scarcity mindset is the thing that most musicians that are really overwhelmed are struggling with in the sense that they're afraid that if they don't answer this call, they'll never get the call again.  They answer the call, but it's at a cost.  Right?  The cost of feeling overwhelmed.”

“Pentatonix, which was just a few weeks ago, I sang in a choir supporting them at the UBS Arena, which is 19,000 people, which is a very different experience… Pentatonix… I know them through other avenues of life as well.”

“We have this big disconnect between our heads and our bodies, and we don't think that there is, but there is.  Right?  So, I'm really interested in going back and talking to that younger version of ourself and healing it.”

“The Recording Academy is the organization that puts on the GRAMMYs, but they also have 364 other days in their year as well.  And so, they're doing a lot of really great work to get musicians paid, to create communities so that musicians are not feeling alone.”

Songs on this episode

“Glimmer”
“Mountain Meditation”