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Arkansas-based award-winning independent music duo who have toured internationally in over seven countries. They perform over two hundred shows per year, captivating audiences with their piano, fiddle, and guitar performances. They have a repertoire of over two thousand songs spanning multiple genres and just under two years ago opened for ZZ Top for an amphitheater show. Last October they released a twelve-song album that made it to No. 39 on the Apple US Country Album Chart. They also have co-founded a production company, an entertainers academy, and a music and arts festival.

Notable Guest Quotes

(Cliff) “I actually wrote the chorus out of a dream.  I woke up and I wrote down the chorus and I was like, ‘Hey Susan, what do you think of this?  And she was like, Yeah, that sounds good,’ so we continued writing the song and it somehow worked out.”

(Cliff) “If you were in a Nashville songwriting session and someone came up with that title and that's what spawned that song to happen, there would be a little bit of an argument to be made that maybe they should (get) a writer credit.”

(Susan) “Cliff and I met in 2016 playing music and we got married a year later, but we had been writing and performing together immediately and we wanted to find our sound as a… country duo… we wanted to feel authentic and let things really evolve and find our stride.”

(Susan) “We've built quite a bit of a fan base of people who come to our shows and know and love us in our shows and our performances live, but when we released the music and we were able to chart, that was just, like, so awesome and rewarding.”

(Susan) “It takes a ying and yang personality and teamwork and two personalities that really work together and not against each other, like, I feel like we complement each other – even on stage, you know, we complement and lift each other up – so, I think it's a puzzle piece that we fit together that probably doesn't always happen.”

(Susan) “To be honest, of course we've had moments where we might have had a spat or somebody was in a bad mood or we didn't agree on something, but I will tell you that music is the best medicine and if we hit that stage, it all goes away and we're there to have fun and immediately all problems are gone.”

(Cliff) “I've been producing (for) over ten years.  I've been in sound engineering, music production, for that long and I've worked on several projects, a bunch of different genres, from rock, blues, country, some pop, some R&B, and gospel even, and I've gotten the privilege to work with a bunch of very, very talented artists that have been on American Idol or The Voice.”

(Susan) “Governor Huckabee was our former governor, but he is a music lover and… I was very surprised to find out that he discovered Cliff and me on the virtual shows that we did during the pandemic.  We just went to streaming, like, four-hour shows every day.  We were all stuck at home and (it) turns out he had been watching us… He’s a bass player.”

(Susan) “As independent artists you really have to be your own label, so I'd say that the all-encompassing term is that we are a music label for ourselves, but underneath that umbrella is production work where we produce other artists.”

(Susan) “I've been performing professionally for 20 years.  I took ten years of classical piano lessons… When I discovered Jerry Lee Lewis piano playing, that's what I wanted to do one day, but never thought that it would be a career path… I've done over 200 shows a year for 20 years, so, that's a lot of shows; over seven countries, been on cruise ships, islands, Amsterdam, Norway, Spain, Germany, all over the States… I… actually lived and worked in Vegas and I was performing on The Strip six nights a week in various casinos.”

Songs on this episode

“Neon Dreams”
“Maybe You Should”

Podcast Type
NHT